Lucy and Peggy, Thanks!  
The big guy was 3.5 when we got him.  He had his lack of training, but I swear these old guys seam to learn faster then the puppies:)  Sure it is always nice to have that “moldable” youngen to work with, but these older ones are just easier.  Maggie, was the youngest we’ve had in the house in a long time, at 7 months, it was young enough for a long time:)  She still has to mush energy, but we did bring her in a few years ago to keep our last senior boxer moving.  
She tried. 
