thanks guys. James, it's sure hard to say. It seems that we never get the sharpening think right. I dont know what to say. I use a lacie and viewsonic, calibrate with gretamacbeth . both my monitors are older crt's, so they may be getting little soft and I compensate for that by oversharpending. but that last shot had about 1.0, and 90 unsharp mask and a bump in contrast. that BW shot is close to what was there, it's a different place and so it really was almost BW to begin with. I shot that earlyier about 20 miles from the toher shots, and it was on a north fact that still had a lot of fresh snow.

Again, thanks for all the great thoughts and comments!

James, what do you use for a monitor?