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Large panos-Want to play? #16329
07/04/08 11:57 AM
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Roman started this, but I know alot of us like to do panos. I thought it would be great to see some of your really
large panos. I'll continue where Roman started. This is not my biggest, but it's pretty good sized (my largest panos are my 360s that can be 20 portrait panels).
I know it looks a little oversharpended which is a result from downsizing to the web. Here are the
specifics which would be nice to post along with your pano

Camera: D200 FL@35mm: 72mm FOV: 180 degrees
Component panels: 13 portrait oriented panels
Pixel dimensions (native): 25,368x3587
Stitching software: PanoramaMaker4 Pro


Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: glamson] #16330
07/04/08 12:46 PM
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Good job...and GREAT topic....

The key to large panos is not just to show more information, but to still keep some kind of composition.

That is tough as you have to use your minds eye to create what you want before you evern start snapping. I catch myself trashing panos all the time because I didnt like or couldnt crop a composition out of the finished stich.

Tip, shoot RAW + smaller JPG when you start shooting panos. This allows you to test stich smaller footprint panos so you can easily figure out which one is worth the effort.

You dont need super expensive equipment to shoot them either....nodial point ballheads are expensive and DO have a purpose, but a tripod with a level (so your shure your tripod is true) and a quick attach plate or hotshoe level will bring the camera into shape.

I shoot all my panos portrait style (with the camera on its side)and usually the longer the lens...the less overlap needed....12MM = 1/3 overlap....200MM you can get away with about 1/5 or somwhere around there.

Good luck everyone.....oh...and my first BIG pano was of one of the BIGGEST places I can imagine....(it was done with a coolpix...so don't gig me on the quality...lol) Composition isnt the best...but I was not shooting for composition...but for vastness...trying for the first time to convey how HUGE the Grand Canyon truly is.



Look forward to seein everyone elses!!!

Roman

Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: RomanJohnston] #16331
07/04/08 01:21 PM
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Quote:

Good job...and GREAT topic....

The key to large panos is not just to show more information, but to still keep some kind of composition.

That is tough as you have to use your minds eye to create what you want before you evern start snapping. I catch myself trashing panos all the time because I didnt like or couldnt crop a composition out of the finished stich.

Tip, shoot RAW + smaller JPG when you start shooting panos. This allows you to test stich smaller footprint panos so you can easily figure out which one is worth the effort.

You dont need super expensive equipment to shoot them either....nodial point ballheads are expensive and DO have a purpose, but a tripod with a level (so your shure your tripod is true) and a quick attach plate or hotshoe level will bring the camera into shape.

I shoot all my panos portrait style (with the camera on its side)and usually the longer the lens...the less overlap needed....12MM = 1/3 overlap....200MM you can get away with about 1/5 or somwhere around there.

Good luck everyone.....oh...and my first BIG pano was of one of the BIGGEST places I can imagine....(it was done with a coolpix...so don't gig me on the quality...lol) Composition isnt the best...but I was not shooting for composition...but for vastness...trying for the first time to convey how HUGE the Grand Canyon truly is.

Roman




Roman,

All great pano advice. I agree wholeheartedly about trying to maximize composition in a pano. But as with your GC pic,
I find that many times composition takes a backseat to scope in a pano. Actually I think that scope can sometimes
work against composition. With composition you are often looking for focus and anchor points, while with scope you
may be doing exactly the opposite. I really love it when the two work together in a pano image and it's probably my
biggest frustration with panos when they don't.

Here is one very similar to your GC one where I think scope overwhelms composition.


Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: glamson] #16332
07/04/08 01:29 PM
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Well...(and that is a very nice pano) it is getting down to honing the details....at least for me. I will not shoot a pano unless I can forsee the composition as well.....it takes more time....and a LOT more thought....but seeing the diffrence it makes in the end result....the comments I get when it all comes together.....it makes it worth the diffrence. And it makes my work an easier sell over those who dont take composition as seriously.

And there IS a composition in every shot.....even one with more details.

That is MY challenge to anyone comfortable where they are shooting panos. :~)

Roman

Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: RomanJohnston] #16333
07/04/08 02:17 PM
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Quote:

Well...(and that is a very nice pano) it is getting down to honing the details....at least for me. I will not shoot a pano unless I can forsee the composition as well.....it takes more time....and a LOT more thought....but seeing the diffrence it makes in the end result....the comments I get when it all comes together.....it makes it worth the diffrence. And it makes my work an easier sell over those who dont take composition as seriously.

And there IS a composition in every shot.....even one with more details.

That is MY challenge to anyone comfortable where they are shooting panos. :~)

Roman




Roman,

Again I agree. In fact I think that is a challenge for all types of photography and is what makes the difference between a good image and an outstanding image.

For me the purpose of taking panos is not primarily to produce beautiful landscapes for sale. I guess most of my pano work is really my attempt to capture the scope of a place I visit and allow me to re-experience it in the image. The pano in the OP of this thread was really taken to record the scope and dare I say grandeur of the Sonora pass. I know there are better compositions within the image, but they would focus down on compositional elements and the scope would be lost. I guess that's what I was trying to get at about scope often working against composition. As with all photography, the image is always guided by the purpose for which it is intended. Certainly if I was going for landscape composition this image would be more of what I would have been after.


Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: glamson] #16334
07/07/08 08:00 AM
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Ok, I'll play. I've been working at capturing our local valley in panos. These were taken with a Leica R 180/3.4 APO lens on a 5D. Processed in CS2 with photomerge. Like the others, I shoot RAW and normally vertical, tend to use a longer telephoto, manual focus, manual exposure, manual white band, Sometime use a panohead, some times just my ballhead, sometimes I handhold.








I'll also combine shots for a more traditional rectangular aspect that has great detail. This is 4 images.



Then there is this one I have shared before:



And a link to a larger, although still downsized,image of the above pano:

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/87408333

Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: jamesdak] #16335
07/07/08 08:21 PM
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some beautiful panos here, all of mine are just so so in comparison. Hopefully will be able to find something to shoot this next week,, headed to The Tetons and Yellowstone again. DAve

Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: jamesdak] #16336
07/08/08 02:08 PM
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Jim,

Always like to see your valley shots. I would love to have a valley like that close to me. If you don't mind can you tell us how many panels make up that last pano?

Thanks for posting,

Geo

Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: glamson] #16337
07/08/08 04:25 PM
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Geo,

If I remember correctly it was 8 or nine vertical frames. For certain I used the Contaz Zeiss 100/2.0 for the shots. So they are a 100mm focal length shot with a FF DSLR.

Oh and this little valley is under big time assault by the developers. Combine that with property taxes rising by over 100% in some cases in one year (mine went up 67%)and this rural valley probably doesn't have too many years left. They are trying to make us a resort town like Park City and are totally ruining what most of us value about the area.

Re: Large panos-Want to play? [Re: jamesdak] #16338
07/12/08 12:40 PM
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these are great! I don't have any to play with but I feel inspired to try this again, last time I tried this my PC kept locking down,


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