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Re: Chinese Crested's [Re: Jim Garvie] #1644
01/13/06 08:12 AM
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there are several ways to shoot dogs:
1. full profile: Dobermans and German Shepherd Dogs for example. The camera is actually behind the shoulder blade and the front legs are a single horizontal plane.
2. 3/4 where the dog shows its chest and the second eye.
3. 7/8 where you see the second front leg and the second rear leg but the head might not show the second eye.





Jim, I'm going to ask for an explaination of these points, if you don't mind...

Specifically, can you help me better visualize what you mean by "The camera is actually behind the shoulder blade and the front legs are a single horizontal plane." in point # 1 - does this mean, when viewed in profile, you only "visually" see the dog's leg on the side facing you - thus hiding the other leg from view?

This kind of info is incredible to hear shared so openly. I'm actually in the process of developing my business plan for a pet portraiture business for my local area. So far, there is one other lady offering the service, and most other photographers decline such work (I've been calling them). My focus will be show-quality portraits of everyday pets for folks...basically, I'm not after the "show" market right out of the gate - I will be exploring it (and it may develop well, between dog shows & local dog sports event), though I'm thinking the main focus for the business should be on a larger base of accessible in-home subjects (hope that makes sense).

So, I would appreciate any and all advice you have which may relate to this - I get the sense you are already established in this line of work, so I figured I'd ask, if you don't mind, for some advice.


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Re: Chinese Crested's [Re: Jim Garvie] #1645
01/13/06 08:38 AM
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My friend's kennel is "Rhine Saints" http://www.rhinestbernard.com/ Her name is Angie and we have known each other for 20 years. We met riding horses. She is small blonde, toting two kids and a husband. Her daughter is showing in the JR ring now.

I have not taken any pictures for her, as we haven't gotten time together for it. I will practice on her dogs too after this weekend. They are on their way down there right now

It would be a blast to be at the Eukanuba

Re: Chinese Crested's [Re: Julie] #1646
01/13/06 09:42 AM
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Julie, are you practicing for shooting for dog show publications, or shots along the lines of Blue n' Sue/ Bandito on Jim's website here? http://www.cpmcreative.com/Portraits/Dogs/index.html


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Re: Chinese Crested's [Re: Chris_A] #1647
01/13/06 10:41 AM
01/13/06 10:41 AM
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Julie,
I think if you visit the site and look at my show shots/formals, you'll see what I mean.
http://www.cpmcreative.com/Show%20Shots/Formals/index.html

For the Doberman shots, I'm actually positioned right off of the left shoulder blade so I see the front legs as one. That's full profile.

The Bassett Hound is just off of full profile and you see two front legs. That's what I'd call a 7/8th. The Rotties, Poodles and most of the other Toy Breeds are more 3/4 with the Pug being almost straight on. Pugs, for formals, are always shot just off of looking straight at you because their most important feature is the headpiece.

I point this out not because you're planning on shooting shows (at this point) but because if you shoot informal portraits and you happen to have the dog standing, the expectation will be to show the dog the way it is posed in the ring. Even my informals -- most of them shot outside for advertising purposes -- will try to feature the headpiece and also the body posed so it looks good. For an example of that, check out the Lumpy photos in the Ocala1105 folder.

I personally would rather shoot informal portraits preferably with owners. Seeing dogs interact with the people they love is always better than just seeing the dog alone. At least to me.

I hope that helps. Keep asking and I'll try to keep answering.

Jim


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Re: Chinese Crested's [Re: Jim Garvie] #1648
01/13/06 12:46 PM
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I think you were answering to me, too, there Jim - so thanks a bunch. Those explainations make sense.

My goal would be to utilize the owner as much as makes sense - obviously the goal is a comfortable dog in their own surroundings. In the end, owners want a portrait of their dog - which entails catching their personality. That'll only happen if the pooch is comfortable.

I'd also feel much better have the owner involved - they know the dog much better and the dog will certainly feel better with them around, rather than a stranger who smells of other dogs...LOL

Thanks again.


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Re: Chinese Crested's [Re: Duane] #1649
01/27/06 10:48 PM
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Beautiful shots and a lot of good information in this thread. Have you ever tried a reflector on the shaded side to bring out some details in the shadowed areas? I have a big piece of cardboard with tin foil duct taped to it, but I've only had my camera equipment a few weeks and we've had nothing but dark skies and rain the whole time so I've not had the opportunity to practice with that yet. Just wondering how much of a difference that would make on a sunny day. I suppose it would be more difficult with horses, being a spookier species


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