while me and my girlfriend were walking in the woods we came upon this dead animal and me being curious i started poking at it and when i turned it around some sort of idk what you would call it...flipper popped out and for the life of me i dont know what it is ive asked numerous people and they dont know either so if you could please help us I.D. this thing we would be very grateful. there are more images if you need more detail.

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If you dont mind please provide time, date, and location of this "find."

at first glance i'm wondering if this is a real image at all and if it is, why it's so poorly developed.

Post the rest of the photos. . .

Oh it is deffintly real the reason why its poorly developed because i took it with my cell phone the time was at 2:20 pm on 4/27/09 in Cato NY the rest of the pictures were taken at the same time [image][/image]

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This corpse is definitely some type of canine, either a domestic dog or one of its wilder cousins (fox, coyote). The "flipper" you refer to is the scapula of the animal with the leg attached. It looks like some critters have been at the corpse.

I am somewhat concerned from these images about the cause of death. You said in your first post that you found this in the woods. However, from the last image this animal appears to have been in some kind of an enclosure and there appears to be a white water bowl in the picture. What's up with that?

Geo

looks like a pet dog to me, there may be other bones in there from another animal depending on what it was being fed, or not. . .

That bone youre calling a flipper is the scapula, as was pointed out, it's the shoulder of the dog. . .

By dog i'm not saying it's barny or rover, i'm using the term dog loosely, in fact it may be an exotic species so it may be hard to tell. . . get more information and take it to your local vet, he/she might know about this animal . . .

This unknown animal was put in this cage so that other animals wouldn't get at it until we could figure out exactly what it was. When we first found it, it was just in the woods. As far as the "flipper" just being the scapula, that would make sense if the other end wasn't attached to this animal. We shook it to see if it was indeed attached by the other end, and it was, so that's why we are so curious about the "flipper." Some other people were saying that it looked like some sort of K9, but the rings on the tail, and the weid flipper threw us off. also the back feet do not look K9, The cause of death is unknown- there were no bite marks or attack marks on it, so we are not sure. We are going to take more pictures of it. [image][/image]

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Interesting. Is the clock on your camera set correctly?

yea we took it this morning my girlfriend has a powershot A430 cannon and no the time is wrong thank you for asking if it was right we didnt relize it was off time/date, any ideas on what this thing is?

Please tell me you are not messing with us here!

Those front legs cannot be attached in the orientation shown in these images. There is no mammal that I know of that would have front legs that long in ratio to its body size and the anatomy of the leg is completely reversed. The shoulder scapula is a blade or "flipper" shaped bone that is attached to the single thick humerus which is attached to the double ulna-radius. The bones are all there but the attachment is completely reversed. It appears that the legs were completely detached from the animal and then reattached.

The rear legs are not canine. They actually look more like a racoon's paws. Although you are in New York, you are close enough to Canada that this may be a very rare find of a Wolverine. The head and body look about right. If it is a Wolverine, it would have been pretty far south. If it didn't get there naturally, I guess there might have been some human intervention.

Geo

whaaat. thats how its attached its clearly shown in the pictures. if you want we can take a video of it its deffintly attached. we promise were not messing with you or anyone were just as stumped as you. i really dont know what it is. you can clearly see where it is attached to the body. [image][/image]


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