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Lightning #22611
05/08/09 12:01 AM
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outdoorpassion Offline OP
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Well I captured this earlier this evening...please critique.

I know the powerline in the shot is distracting but I couldnt help it and I'm not one to clone things out in photoshop. Although, I do think it adds to the realism of the shot.

22858-IMG_0132.jpg (234 downloads)
Re: Lightning [Re: outdoorpassion] #22612
05/09/09 12:02 PM
05/09/09 12:02 PM
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Hi Dan,

Cool catch. Did you use an optical sensor or did you just manage to catch it right manually? As to the image, I agree that the power line is distracting. Obviously, it is what is there...it just isn't pretty, LOL.

James

Re: Lightning [Re: James Morrissey] #22613
07/14/09 09:01 AM
07/14/09 09:01 AM
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No less a personage than Ansel Adams used reality as a starting point, and would come back to his favorite negatives over the years -- which he called equivalent to music scores -- and give them a completely different treatment/interpretation. "Darkroom magic" is a time-honored practice. You can take out the offending powerline without breaking the "rules of photography" or artistic philosophy. After all, the image is about the lightning, is it not? If the powerline is a distractor from the lightning, it needs to go.

Sometimes photos need to show stark literal reality and sometimes they become total fantasy compositions bearing virtually no relation whatever to reality -- both are "legit," and so is everything inbetween.

Leonard


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Re: Lightning [Re: outdoorpassion] #22614
07/15/09 03:11 AM
07/15/09 03:11 AM
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Quote:

Well I captured this earlier this evening...please critique.

I know the powerline in the shot is distracting but I couldnt help it and I'm not one to clone things out in photoshop. Although, I do think it adds to the realism of the shot.




I'm with Leonard on this one. While there is plenty of "reality" in this image, the lightning strike is pretty muted. For my money lightning is a natural light show that should be optimized for its flash. I respect your point of view concerning clonig, but I try never to let abstractions effect the object of my images. Since you asked for critique I would say that if this were mine, I would try to optimize the lightning in PP as much as I could. Toward that end, I submit this version as another alternative.


Last edited by glamson; 07/15/09 03:37 AM.
Re: Lightning [Re: glamson] #22615
07/16/09 12:01 PM
07/16/09 12:01 PM
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Speaking of fantasy to reality and back in photography, you might want to take a look at this collection of what is (apparently) now being called photo manipulation, a field indigenous to digital photography, but whose ancestry harkens back to the chemical darkroom:

http://digital-photography-school.com/20-incredible-photo-manipulation-examples

Twenty-first Century versions — in some cases — of what Bosch and Breugel were doing back in the fifteenth...or even Dali and Magritte in our own time.

Leonard


It's about how well you treat yourself and others. http://www.picturetrail.com/la.digiphoto
Re: Lightning [Re: OlympusGuy] #22616
08/11/09 06:01 PM
08/11/09 06:01 PM
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Shooting lightning is, for me at least, challenging and at times a bit scary. Here's a capture from one week ago, 8/4/09. Huge fast-moving storm, SE corner of Rocky Mountain National Park at about 9:30 PM or so. I used a Canon 1D MKII, 24-70 L zoom at approximately 35 mm, ISO 100, BULB mode, manual release timed to capture multiple flashes, in-camera noise reduction on, tripod:



Shooting these in RAW file format is important because white balance must be corrected due to the long exposures. The usual approach of framing the picture, fiddling with various settings etc. isn't practical. I pre-set the aperture between F8 and F11 and focus at infinity. Sure I got a bit wet, as did the camera/lens/tripod - but I don't worry about weather much because the 1 series Canon bodies and the L series lenses have excellent weather seals throughout.

In this case I was lucky to get some very powerful near-by ground strikes in rapid succession. One trick I've discovered is to release the shutter (terminate the exposure) the very instant a big strike occurs. The fine branching away from the main bolt is better preserved and the inevitable over-exposure is minimized. Regarding post-processing, little is required beyond cropping, white balance and additional noise reduction on occasion. The last thing I do to these in post-processing is use my sharpen brush at 2-4% in the 'lighten' mode applied to the lightning itself. Regarding the powerline in OP's image - I'd eliminate that in a heartbeat with no qualms at all. Instead of the clone/heal tool, I use polygonal lasso with a 1 pix feather, select closly around the offending line then move the selection adjacent to the line, copy, paste and move to cover the line, then flatten as this technique rarely requires additional adjustments. For lighting strikes that aren't strong enough for my taste, I will sometimes use the high pass filter to sharpen the lightning detail. (post-processing tools and terms above are from Adobe Photoshop, CS4).

Last edited by Buddy Thomason; 08/11/09 06:07 PM.
Re: Lightning [Re: Buddy Thomason] #22617
08/18/09 07:49 PM
08/18/09 07:49 PM
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Hi

Cool images guys - I agree with the advantages of shooting in RAW for WB adjustment etc.

Adam

www.adamcoup.com/portfolio

Re: Lightning [Re: adamcoupe] #22618
08/18/09 11:18 PM
08/18/09 11:18 PM
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Here's a little different edit of the original image:


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