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Re: water marking and signatures [Re: psmith] #24961
09/07/09 12:40 PM
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Thanks Preston, I will do that. One other thought, I've noticed after I edit an image (I use paint shop pro) that the original properties from the camera go away. Maybe I need to set something in PSP to save those or put in new ones? This is one reason I was asking about using the digital (invisible) watermark, which I think would be permanently built into the image, even if it is edited and/or the signature cropped off. Although maybe I'm not understanding how that type of watermark works.

Diana

Re: water marking and signatures [Re: StarrLight] #24962
09/07/09 01:31 PM
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I think James was referring to the ownership and copyright data in the EXIF metadata. That is a part of a JPG and other image file formats, but your image editor needs to preserve it on saving.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchangeable_image_file_format

Re: water marking and signatures [Re: psmith] #24963
09/07/09 02:07 PM
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Ahh, thanks, I'll check that out.

Diana

Re: water marking and signatures [Re: DavidRamey] #24964
09/10/09 07:44 AM
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Nope, they are not. Your quote is taken out of context and the following appears in the same document (and on the same page):

Quote:

The use of a copyright notice is no longer required under U. S. law, although it is often beneficial. Because prior law did contain such a requirement, however, the use of notice is still relevant to the copyright status of older works.
Notice was required under the 1976 Copyright Act. This
requirement was eliminated when the United States adhered
to the Berne Convention, effective March 1, 1989. Although
works published without notice before that date could have
entered the public domain in the United States, the Uruguay
Round Agreements Act (URAA) restores copyright in certain
foreign works originally published without notice. For further
information about copyright amendments in the URAA,
see Circular 38b.




Quote:

Jim, I think your sources are mistaken.

"Form of Notice for Visually Perceptible Copies
The notice for visually perceptible copies should contain all
the following three elements:
1 The symbol © (the letter C in a circle), or the word
“Copyright,” or the abbreviation “Copr.”; and
2 The year of first publication of the work. In the case of
compilations or derivative works incorporating previously
published material, the year date of first publication of
the compilation or derivative work is sufficient. The year
date may be omitted where a pictorial, graphic, or sculptural
work, with accompanying textual matter, if any, is
reproduced in or on greeting cards, postcards, stationery,
jewelry, dolls, toys, or any useful article; and
3 The name of the owner of copyright in the work, or an
abbreviation by which the name can be recognized, or a
generally known alternative designation of the owner.
Example: © 2008 John Doe
The “C in a circle” notice is used only on “visually perceptible
copies.” Certain kinds of works—for example, musical,
dramatic, and literary works—may be fixed not in “copies”..."

Quoted today from Copyright Office



Re: water marking and signatures [Re: Jim Poor] #24965
09/10/09 08:35 AM
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Now that I think about it, if your point is that "_If_ it is used, it should be 'this' way" then I think you are correct.

However no marking is required.

Re: water marking and signatures [Re: Jim Poor] #24966
09/10/09 02:02 PM
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Jim,
I never said anything about copyright notice being a requirement. I also didn't quote out of context, I just quoted what was relevant to the original question that was asked.


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Re: water marking and signatures [Re: DavidRamey] #24967
09/11/09 03:39 PM
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Yeah, I think we were talking about apples and oranges. Sorry about that.

Re: water marking and signatures [Re: Jim Poor] #24968
09/11/09 05:43 PM
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No need to be sorry, I have done that myself once or twice


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