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Critique my work tell me what u think #5079
08/31/06 01:05 AM
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here is my myspace page where u can see my pics if u have myspace add me and leave comments I rotate pics often. I am taking pictures for a magazine right now and really would like to hear what everyone thinks. thanks guys for all the good feedback last time i learned alot.

http://www.myspace.com/kewl0069



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flower bee

Monkey
taylors crossing Idaho falls ID new bronze statue of cougar

Idaho falls ID

Idaho falls ID # 2
Lioness at the Idaho falls zoo
Osprey in flight
Taylors crossing Idaho falls Bronze statues
Idaho falls ID #3

Idaho falls #4

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Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Donald Steele] #5080
08/31/06 09:00 AM
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well, it is good to see that we did not run you off, i'm glad to see you back. You have asked for a lot of time, i'll do my best to give you my thoughs, but it would be much more effective for you if you posted one or two at a time.

I looked over all the shots, the osprey and i think ID falls ID shots would not open.

In any event, here's my assesement not knowing what the purpose of the shots are. You said your "shooting for a magazine," are these the shot and if so, what's the purpose of the magazine and who is the audiance? This it important information for a criteque.

With that, I'll five you my thoughts.

First, ALL the shots need to be shot in warmer light. Pick early or late, or, maybe a different time of year (different sun angle).

Try to crop in the camera.

I think you need focus on the subject of the shot and shoot them and crop them to focus on that subject. I noticed in most of your shots that youre centering the subject and or there's too much waisted space. Cougar - center frame, statue bronzes - too much forground - concentrate on the subject.



You dont have to complicate things by adding more stuff to fill in the space, you just need to adjust your angles and or move to a different location.

I think the statue bronze statues shot needs to be taken in warm light, with a LOG shutter speed - try a polerizer, a tripd and a lower sun angle.

I think most of the shots are over processed. To much sharpending, or too much contrast or too much saturation. I wont go into detail on each shot as it would take me too much time to be fair. Poste fewer shots next time.

I think you should focus more on better light, and make sure you really know what your trying to show in the photo - for example, ID falls shot 4 is mostly a big bush on the left side of the shot, my initial thought was why is he taking a shot of a huge bush, why not move or change angles, or somthing. I think you should consider bringing a ladder or staning on top of a vehicle (be careful) in order to get some different angles. You may even have to get wet to get the agles you need to make those shots unique!

Good luck. . .

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Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Tony Bynum] #5081
08/31/06 09:03 AM
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here's another crop - with this shot, I'd also change my angle, bring a ladder, and shoot it under warmer light.

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Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Tony Bynum] #5082
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Tony gave you excellent critiques. I don't have much to add except to 2nd the early morning/late afternoon. I personally love early morning.

You can choose which will work best considering where the sun will be rising/setting at. Midday sucks.

I know we have been having BEAUTIFUL sunsets with crimson, golds and violettes lately. So, these same shots with skies that color would be wondeful

Morning has such a warm, diffuse light that 7-8am makes this wonderful golden glow.

Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Julie] #5083
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thanks folks the magazine wanted the contrast way up and vibrant colors . its the prospectus magazine being published for the chamber of commerce in Idaho falls ID by cicerone. I have like only 3 weeks more and i have been taking over 10,000 pictures of the entire area every angle and everything its really alot of work. they want to see the entire back ground they dont want me to focus on the subject in the bronze statue they want to see more of the display. I agree about the lighting I wish I had some better polarizing equipment and a bigger lense im still to poor to afford some of the stuff i need to take pictgures the way i want. I will try early morning afternoon and evening on a subject with no editing and see what effect it has thanks for the tip. I am using adobe elements 4.0 for editing the photo's. i also have the unedited versions of the pics too that are in raw format 6mb each

Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Donald Steele] #5084
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The audience is people looking to visit the area as tourist. New buisness. People who have never seen idaho falls. So I need to show the area real good. the arts, museum,Zoo,parks,the falls,rivers,anything beautifull or wild in the area, law enforcment,community events, scenic down town Idaho falls Etc.

Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Donald Steele] #5085
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tomorrow mourning i will go back to the Taylors crossing statues and falls monument and get more pics of it lets see how it turns out lol.

Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Donald Steele] #5086
08/31/06 03:12 PM
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I'd say for an opportunity like the one you describe, and if youre into photography, go spend the money you need to make the shots better. I think you can do it without any new gear. You need some different angles and some better light - clouds would help too.

Now on to this statement: "they want to see the entire back ground they dont want me to focus on the subject in the bronze statue they want to see more of the display."

I understand what your saying, but you MUST have a subject, you can not just go out and snap away, you really need to concentrate and compose. The fact that they dont want you to focus on the obvious subject is not a licence for you to not have a subject. Every shot, big or small has a subject. Dont over do it by just putting a wider lens on but really sit down and compose a shot that will show what they want you to show. I think it's safe to say that a photo that shows a lot of area but half of it is a bush, is not what they are after.

I recomend you show them more area and subject. Your current shots are in that middle range where it's hard to know what you want the viewer to focus on. If the client wants more area you better give them more than you posted in those shots, but still have a message and a subject.

Try to back way out, climb a tree, rent a tommy lift, do whatever it takes to show them more, but I think your shots still are in that zone of not enough but maybe too much, if you know what I mean. . .

It may not be possible to what I describe without some serious effort on your part, but if they want the best, you should take this on as a major step in the evolution of your photographic life and give them somthing that will blow their socks off!

Best of luck!

Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Tony Bynum] #5087
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I think by contrasty, they are really wanting sharp and colorful. Not harsh light where the highlights are on the edge of clipping and the shadows are losing detail.

I would pull back on the bronze statue so the cougar looks like it has space where it is looking too and ahead of it.

With the falls, I would get there in soft light (7-8am or 6-8pm) with a polarizer and REALLY slow the shutter down. Close the aperture down to about F16 and then slow down that shutter so the water goes silky. It would be a lovely sunset shot with the skyline in the background. Especially on a night with oranges and reds in a sunset. Of course, you will need good tripod for this.

Re: Critique my work tell me what u think [Re: Julie] #5088
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I think by contrasty, they are really wanting sharp and colorful. Not harsh light where the highlights are on the edge of clipping and the shadows are losing detail.

I would pull back on the bronze statue so the cougar looks like it has space where it is looking too and ahead of it.

With the falls, I would get there in soft light (7-8am or 6-8pm) with a polarizer and REALLY slow the shutter down. Close the aperture down to about F16 and then slow down that shutter so the water goes silky. It would be a lovely sunset shot with the skyline in the background. Especially on a night with oranges and reds in a sunset. Of course, you will need good tripod for this.




I concure 100%! In fact, while we're on this track, I'd say bring a flash, or a few of them if you have-em, and I'll bet that sculpture has lights - if so, shoot it right after the lights come on and before you lose your ambiant light.

I dont know the spot, but it may not be possible to light the front this way - if it's too dark. So, hit it early, before the lights go off and try to get yourself higher so that you reduce the distortion.

Again, good luck, you have a great project just stay on it!

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