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Show photo help #5398
09/24/06 08:19 AM
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As I'm taking photos at the breed national next year, I went along to our royal show for practice.

These are my favourite shots and what I think show the dog in good light? I would appreciate any help.












I ended up taking about 500 photos for 50 or so entries, as I took a quick burst of 10 shots for each dog in the ring so that I would get some proper movement shots.

Nat


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Re: Show photo help [Re: Tess32] #5399
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They look lovely to me.

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I think these are beautiful!! Do you find it hard to find a spot to shoot from? I have been doing groups but the problem is when I am on the side of the ring opposite where the dogs are being gaited, the rest of the group entries are on my side of the ring, standing in my way! So I have tiny windows of people and dogs to shoot through in the hopes of getting a good frame of a gaiting dog. They also often gait behind group signs, tent poles, flower pots, etc.

It looks like you had a nice overcast day making perfect lighting conditions for this!


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Re: Show photo help [Re: Tess32] #5401
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Natalie, your shots are lovely. I feel you did a great job.
Always watch the stack. Make sure you check out the breed to see how they
usually want to be presented. Three quarter head position seems to be the
most often asked for. Go to the toy store for unusual noise makers since some
dogs will react to a new sound.
Great luck.


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Re: Show photo help [Re: Peggy Sue] #5402
12/07/06 09:15 AM
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Quote:


Always watch the stack. Make sure you check out the breed to see how they
usually want to be presented. Three quarter head position seems to be the
most often asked for.
Great luck.




Hey,

This is the great sort of advice that is helpful from folks who do shows, etc. While folks such as myself may like the image compositions as they are, this adds an extra valuable element towards composition.

James

Re: Show photo help [Re: James Morrissey] #5403
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James, I totally agree with appreciating the images just as they are. I like these images, especially the moving shots.
I have found that some dog show owners seem to repeat the same things when it comes to giving a critique of photos. When I have shot for "show" people I try to give them what they usually expect and then shoot for myself to try to get a special look. Sometimes what they thought they wanted was not really what they liked the most.
Little things like watching the flowers over the topline on photo 4, may cause the owner not to purchase that shot. By moving slightly to have a clear green grass over the back of the dog may be more pleasing to the owner. (Unless they do not like that feature of the dog and are trying to hide a fault.)
Sort of like being at a beauty pagent and trying to show the best features for their advertising.


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Re: Show photo help [Re: Peggy Sue] #5404
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These are great! I would have loved to get shots like these when I was showing my dog.

Re: Show photo help [Re: agilitycrested] #5405
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Is it possible to use a flash under those conditions? I would think the slightest pop from your flash would put a nice catch light in the dogs eyes, I think all animal shot need some reflection in the eye.

I also think you should try to shoot a little lower. Get a good monopod and it's simple to shoot at eye level. I'm not sure it that's what people want, but I believe at or just below eye level is the most interesting and realistic. Angle down shots from above the animal puts them in a less flattering position.

Overall you did capture well exposed images. If you can shoot a flash, try slowing your shutterspeed and selecting rear curtain sinc and do some experimenting. . .

Good luck.

Re: Show photo help [Re: Tony Bynum] #5406
12/11/06 07:25 PM
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Is it possible to use a flash under those conditions? .....




I'm not sure if there are any written rules here. I know if I was showing my dog and someone popped a flash and the dog hesitated in it's extended gaiting, I'd feel like leaping the barrier and bending the tripod around the photographer's 'head. I've seen flash used ring-side but generally it's not appreciated by the handlers.

As a photographer I don't use flash alongside the show-ring out of concern that it could put a dog off for a moment. Of course ten yards or so away from the ring shooting candids or stacks or win-shots there is every reason to use flash.

Same with Flyball, anything that might distract a dog from performing is best is not good conduct, would be thought of as either ignorant or arrogant.

At some Obedience Trials even a shutter-click near the ring can draw glares from officials and competitors, flash could not be considered.

That's all from an Australian perspective though, - I'd like to know what is considered usual or acceptable in the USA during competition, and whether there are different rules for indoor or outdoor shows.

(Totally agree a monopod or tripod is needed: bending to shoot hand-held for around six hours straight at an all-day show would be torture - and shots from 'above' generally make a dog's legs appear shortened and back over-broad).

Re: Show photo help [Re: PossumCorner] #5407
12/11/06 07:46 PM
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It is not usually kosher to use flash at either dog or horse shows, for the exact reason you describe. I have been yelled at for just BEING ringside before as a horse was spooking

I have used flash at a dog show, but, I was asked to. They were also St Bernards who don't spook easily AND it was a fun show

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