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Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday morning #7270
03/18/07 11:53 AM
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Just a few perspectives on Elowah Falls....hiked out super
early.....the constellations were still showing through the treetops as I made my way back...to wait for first light.

You basicly get a bath walking the trail up to the bridge.....my glasses were so wet I had to take them off in about 3 steps.....I was almost soaked by the time I got to the other side of the bridge.....Thankfully I dried out waiting for the light to arrive.
: )

Here are 4 of my favorites...



This is 4 shots making up about a 40MP pano...(taken portrait with
1/4 overlap:
I should be able to print this at 60" wide with good quality.


This one is the same..4 shots...large print....



And this one I tried to get the trees into the composision....3 shots...still a large print....


Roman

Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: RomanJohnston] #7271
03/18/07 04:37 PM
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Hey Roman, have you tried lightroom yet? It wont let you bring large TIFF panos! Kind of sucks, but there is a limit on file size. A lot of my tiff panos can be brought into lightroom.

Nice to see your work. I always like to see your images, they are very very nice, thanks for sharring!

Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: Tony Bynum] #7272
03/19/07 06:44 AM
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Yes...I have tried Lightroom...did not like it. Already know (and have)Photoshop CS3. It's pano tools are VERY easy to use (unlike CS2' pano tool...which was horrable.)

Lightroom is just a pared down version of photoshop....and I didnt see any tools I dont already have in photoshop....(not to mention the interface seems uncomfortable as I am su used to photoshop.....so not sure what I would gain with it. (am I missing somthing?)

Thank you VERY much though.....:)

Roman

Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: RomanJohnston] #7273
03/19/07 08:07 AM
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I donnt know if youre missing anyting as I use PSE for my catelogue, and dont know what CS offers. I have cs but not the last two updates.

I need to choose three things very soon, any help or thoughs would be great!

1. new, robust catelogue/browser/photo file manager
2. new, robust business managemet program (i'm tired of the shoebox approach)
2. new 20+ inch flat pannel monitor. . .

I'll keep looking over lightroom.

How about the digital negative format, that sounds interesting but I never have used it.

If you like, I'll re post in another topic, so I dont keep hi-jacking yours. . .

Tony

Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: Tony Bynum] #7274
03/19/07 08:41 PM
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1. Photoshop bridge is actually a pretty powerful tool....you might want to read about it
Bridge Overview Here

Your first #2....LOL....I am not sure what you mean...would you clarify?

Your second #2.....(sorry..gotta poke fun at ya!!)
Dell makes quite a nice wide screen unit for the $350.00 range. If your not considering yourself a graphics professional that has to nail every color every time right down to its pantone number.......this is a quality monitor that will give quality results.

If your doing demanding prepress work and dead serious....then the expense will put you in the $1700.00 + range for the likes of an Eizo FlexScan, or the LaCie 321...which should be a bit cheaper when introduced.....(but in the same ballpark) both are acknowledged as the top of the line monitors.

Me...I use two cheap (calibrated) CTL 19" monitors .....and my colors come out dead on for my prints.

DNG s interesting...but I dont want to use it till it is an accepted standard. Till then I save my RAW files and basicly my file system looks like this.

Main folder (Labled somthing like "2007.03.17 Hike back to Elowah Falls") All my origonals that make muster are stored there....I can anything I know will not work...or will be a headache. I also get rid of my tiny .jpg side files (I shoot RAW + .jpg small so I can zoom in my little Epson P2000 in the field and check critical focus as I cant zoom into RAW files) My files stay in folders by year....and since my experience is my best catalog.....I am able to move around most anwhere I can...so I am guilty in not leveraging the power of Adobe Bridge....I am sure though some day I will have a collection big enough that it will start to make me scratch my head....and I will start looking into the tools I already have...LOL!!!!

In the folder I have a folder called "Edited" and "30x45 Ready for print". In the edited folder (the 30x45 is self explanitory) I have 4 folders....."In Work" "Unsharpened" "Sharpened" and "Web"

Roman

Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: RomanJohnston] #7275
03/19/07 09:22 PM
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Splendid images, Roman. Fine job of stitching them together, too.

That's quite a dramatic drop for a waterfall. I can see where you could get mighty wet from the spray.

Best regards,

Dick:)


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Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: RichardR] #7276
03/19/07 11:15 PM
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Thanks roman, your system sounds much like mine!!! That's why I want to move to a more robust and better system.

Thanks for the help. Oh yea, as for the business software I was talking about programs like photobyte, photobiz, and blinkbid. . .

I've been looking at the nec and samsung monitors there are some real nice 21" one's out there in the 5-700 $ range

Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: Tony Bynum] #7277
03/20/07 01:40 PM
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Thanks Richard.....and Tony...good luck on whatever you choose. Let me know what you find.

Roman

Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: RomanJohnston] #7278
03/20/07 10:35 PM
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I use Lightroom Tony and I agree with many of the things Roman has said. I have CS2 but found bridge to be somewhat annoying to use for organizing photos. I find Lightroom good for imports and applying metadata to my Raw files as they are imported. I like the organizing features of Lightroom especially the loop view which is good for fast initial screening to rate the files without any extra clicks like in Bridge(though I may just not be adept enough at it).I like the initial exposure compensation in Lightroom but all the curves, tone, hue,resizing and sharpening is better done in CS2.Also I don't use the Print,Slideshow, or Web features that much so I can't comment.After all the work I did with CS2 to get all my screen colors to match my printer profiles I don't want to change that process.
I think Adobe was trying to make Lightroom a substitute for PS for some folks but still attract PS users.
In my opinion Lightroom's a good organizer, with good search functions and better for me than Bridge in that respect but does not in any way replace PS.I'm sure there are better organizers out there.


Joe Piotrowski www.avipics.net
Re: Hiked back to Elowah Falls early yesterday mor [Re: Joe Piotrowski] #7279
03/21/07 06:37 AM
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Try the beta of CS3.....Bridge (while still a bit buggy in the beta form) is quite diffrent....and probably a LOT closer to Lightroom....at least worth the glance before you cement a decision.

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