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Forest Through the Trees. . . #7548
04/04/07 08:03 AM
04/04/07 08:03 AM
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Montana
Tony Bynum Offline OP
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While in search of Mountain Goats the other day (I found some but was not able to get on them), in the timber no less, I was able to capture some interesting tree shots. Tree shots are always more involved than one thinks. For me, the tree shots are some of the most exiting to photograph because it's so much more than pointing a camera at a large landscape and snapping a picture (I know some might think thats what my shots look like, but it's much more chalanging to get something good than you think, nonetheless, shooting them makes me feel more balanced between framing wildlife and letting my mind wonder, to shoot landscape abstracts, no matter how they turn out). If you have a place where you can see large tree scapes and you begin to look them over, it becomes clearer that trees really do make up a forest. Patterns become apparent and the subtle changes show up the longer you look. This looking into the forest through the trees, or visa-versa has to be done quickly especially if the light and temperature are changing rapidly. What once could have been a very good shot may just fade behind a cloud or the frost on the tree goes away, etc. Once also can get caught up in the procrastination or the pressure to shoot something well and it becomes difficult to pick out one or two shots from a million acres of trees. I just try to relax and feel the calmness of the place then shoot away.

There are few things I have learned over the years of photographing tree-scapes. First, it seems that shooting at between 100 and 200mm on a 1.5 factor dslr gives me the best results. It also seems that tighter in camera crops work better too. Once the trees start to become indistinguishable the shots, for me start to fall apart – but I’ll bet for some, that’s when they just start to come together!

That said, I think abstract nature is very difficult to photographer well. I have a long way to go because every time I get home and look over my shots, I see things I never saw in the frame, most of the time they are things that I would have eliminated. This tells me I'm not paying enough attention. After seeing them exposed back home on my monitor, I always think of how I should have shot the scene. So, more than anything, I keep after it because it’s fun and challenging. I also use it to fill in when my wildlife subjects wont cooperate, sometimes that turns out better than I had expected, and sometimes I guess we just have to just slow down to see the forest through the trees. . .








Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: Tony Bynum] #7549
04/04/07 01:41 PM
04/04/07 01:41 PM
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Salt Lake City, Utah
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Great compositions. It is amazing to find such symetry in the randomness. I like shots like those as well.

Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: Marty Everhard] #7550
04/04/07 01:44 PM
04/04/07 01:44 PM
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Way to see the patterns in the chaos.....and way to record it....nicely done.

B&W version needs a little more punch to make it as vocal as the color shots.

Roman

Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: RomanJohnston] #7551
04/04/07 03:39 PM
04/04/07 03:39 PM
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Manhattan, New York, New York
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Hey Tony,

These are great - really nice compositions. I prefer the look of the color ones over the B&W one as there is less differtiation in the patterns of the trees on the B&W one. The one critique that I will mention is that the image looks a bit overly sharp to me - am I wrong?

James

Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: James Morrissey] #7552
04/04/07 04:38 PM
04/04/07 04:38 PM
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Montana
Tony Bynum Offline OP
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thanks guys. James, it's sure hard to say. It seems that we never get the sharpening think right. I dont know what to say. I use a lacie and viewsonic, calibrate with gretamacbeth . both my monitors are older crt's, so they may be getting little soft and I compensate for that by oversharpending. but that last shot had about 1.0, and 90 unsharp mask and a bump in contrast. that BW shot is close to what was there, it's a different place and so it really was almost BW to begin with. I shot that earlyier about 20 miles from the toher shots, and it was on a north fact that still had a lot of fresh snow.

Again, thanks for all the great thoughts and comments!

James, what do you use for a monitor?

Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: Tony Bynum] #7553
04/04/07 08:52 PM
04/04/07 08:52 PM
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Tony,
Great shots. My favourite is the top one because of not only the symetry of the trees but the contrasting near and far colors.


Joe Piotrowski www.avipics.net
Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: Joe Piotrowski] #7554
04/04/07 11:15 PM
04/04/07 11:15 PM
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Hey Tony,

I am using a Gateway Diamondtron NF monitor. At the time I purchased it, it was considered one of the better monitors to purchase. I have avoided getting an LCD because I am still not happy with reproduction of highlights on the LCD displays. We have had all sorts of issues with Chanthee's, and we have now calibrated it twice.

James

Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: James Morrissey] #7555
04/06/07 09:59 PM
04/06/07 09:59 PM
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These are really nice. I have great respect for people who can capture the beauty of relatively common scenes. I think that is quite challenging. This looks like an area that most people would not have even noticed - yet you found a symmetry and balance that works well. Very inspiring.

I agree - the color one is more captivating than the B&W.

Last edited by daveman; 04/06/07 10:00 PM.

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Re: Forest Through the Trees. . . [Re: daveman] #7556
04/06/07 10:02 PM
04/06/07 10:02 PM
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Tony Bynum Offline OP
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Dave, that's really nice of you to say... Thanks guys.


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