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Re: Another Critique Please [Re: daveman] #8035
04/28/07 08:17 PM
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Thanks Dave,
looks like the red is out on the pic that you posted. I will try that on my original file and see if it works.

This is how it looks framed and the sky seems to balance ok when it is wrapped with a mat. This is not the real frame that you see, it is just an example but the real frame looks great with a black suede mat and also the inner wood filet against the image. I could reduce the sky at top a little more, but I don't want to crowd the tree tops. I've also used a very dark (black/brown suede mat) that looks great.

Thanks,
Dale


Re: Another Critique Please [Re: Dale Forrest] #8036
04/28/07 10:44 PM
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I agree- the mat helps bring me back into the picture. I think that without the mat the sky seems more overwhelming.

Looks great.

Dave


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Re: Another Critique Please [Re: daveman] #8037
04/29/07 12:43 AM
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The red fringe is your lense. In PS2, open the photo in raw and there will be a tab where you can adjust it. It's chroma noise, and this fringing becomes visible when you crop. In the larger immage, it does draw your eye to the grass too much so because of the contrast. That was one thing I saw origionally. The other was croping for horizontal. Different photo though. One emphasizes empty solitude, the other an animal. Both are stunning.

Re: Another Critique Please [Re: Genus Loci] #8038
05/01/07 10:42 AM
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I agree, the image really comes into its own when presented as a framed piece - very nice. The red fringe is, as said, a lens (mostly) and sensor issue. I haven't had to deal with it much since moving to Canon 1D + 1Ds bodies and L series lenses. (Full frame allows more room to crop for composition rather than re-frame for composition).

Chromatic abbertation was more of an issue with my Canon 10D/non L lenses and a terrible problem with the little Nikon Coolpix 5000 (my first digital camera some years ago).

Anyway, in Photoshop CS2 with an open image on the screen go to the view menu, then distort, then lens correction. You will see adjustments for 'chromatic abberation' which is what's going on with the red fringe. Chromatic abberation comes in two flavors; red/cyan and blue/yellow. As suggested, and as is so often the case with Photoshop, there may be several, even many, ways to fix it - though, at least in my experience, it's tough to fix it totally. Best to avoid it from the start.

If I understand correctly, chromatic abberation can be minimized by sticking to the lens' sweet spot - that is to say the mid-range appertures and most important area of the subject near the center of the lens. This might be an issue for those of us who like to auto-expose then reframe the shot before releasing the shutter. The 'full frame' sensor on the 1Ds plus the ability to shift the main point of exposure manualy means one can, like in this image for example, have the Bison's face in the center of the lens (also the vegetation in front of its face) for greatest clarity and least chromatic abberation, and, if desired, set the auto-exposure point somewhere else - like the sky or trees in the background if one wanted to capture as many of the shadings in those areas as possible. Or expose right in the center where the animal's face is. In a pure landscape image it's nice to do multiple shots with different exposure values then blend them in PS. Harder to do here since the animal might move slightly between exposures. I'm rambling..... sorry.

Very nice picture though!

Re: Another Critique Please [Re: Buddy Thomason] #8039
05/01/07 08:36 PM
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thanks Buddy,

I lot of good information.. I will work on it in PS and see what I can improve. It does look good in person though. At least my customers love it. This is a shot that I wish I had better equipment at the time I took it. I was using my New D200 that I had only had 1 week before the trip to Yellowstone. A lot of reading on the plane trip. I also used my Nikon 400mm 5.6 prime lens. I'm looking for advice on a better lens for my next trip.

Thanks again.
Dale

Re: Another Critique Please [Re: Genus Loci] #8040
05/01/07 08:40 PM
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Thanks Walter,
I think with all of the advice I can get red of the red in the grass. I haven't had time to work on it yet but this weekend I hope to get it done.

Dale

Re: Another Critique Please [Re: Dale Forrest] #8041
05/03/07 01:02 AM
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Quote:

I was using my New D200 that I had only had 1 week before the trip to Yellowstone. A lot of reading on the plane trip.




I feel your pain! The learning curve with new gear is especially steep when you must use it effectively so soon!

Hey, I grew up in NC - Charlotte area. There's a lot I miss back there even though CO is nice. We go back to the SC coast every summer so I can get my 'fix.'

Re: Another Critique Please [Re: Dale Forrest] #8042
05/03/07 08:58 AM
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