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Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive

Posted By: psmith

Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/22/11 11:47 PM

When I installed Windows 7 I made C a dual boot drive, so now I have C which is out of space and a virtual D which has nothing that I really need to keep but is all Vista, the D drive has lots of free space on it. Is there any easy way to get the D free space over to C?
Posted By: Jim Poor

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/23/11 11:36 AM

Clone C to D and boot from there?
Posted By: James Morrissey

free up space on my Cdrive - Ask The Tech - 02/23/11 01:48 PM

Ouch. I wonder if Roman and/or Chanthee can be helpful on this. I have a bad felkng that you cannot redistribute the memory.

I would suggest reinstalling those lare protrams on V onto D so that it decreases the load on your C drive.

James
Posted By: psmith

Re: free up space on my Cdrive - Ask The Tech - 02/23/11 02:40 PM

Would Norton Ghost make a reinstall easier or would it just take me back to a dual drive deal.
Posted By: glamson

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/23/11 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: psmith
When I installed Windows 7 I made C a dual boot drive, so now I have C which is out of space and a virtual D which has nothing that I really need to keep but is all Vista, the D drive has lots of free space on it. Is there any easy way to get the D free space over to C?


Preston,

I've never done a dual boot installation and I don't know what you mean by a "virtual D". If however you mean that you created a C and D partition on your drive then making more room on C is just a matter of redistributing the partitions. There is a great free tool for this called Easus Partition Master at the following link
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm

I've used it several times on different systems including Win 7 to resize partitions.

Hope this helps.

Geo
Posted By: RomanJohnston

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/23/11 04:00 PM

I second the tool Geo has proposed. Just expand your C partition with the software.

Roman
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/23/11 10:32 PM

Geo/Roman,

Yes, its one drive with a C and D partition. When you dual boot the OS that you boot to becomes C and the other one D. Soon as I finish customer orders I'm going to try your recommendation. Thanks.
Posted By: RomanJohnston

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/24/11 03:32 PM

The tech in me says I have to give you a reccomendation I am sure the software companies also will give you before doing this.


BACKUP all critical data first. You know, the stuff you cant live without.

Sounds scary....it's not. More than likely 99.99999% chance...all things will go good and your backup would have been cautionary. But just beware you ARE changing how the computer sees your hard disk, and while the chances are very slight with this proven software, I would not have done my duty if I didn't warn you .

Roman
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/24/11 04:31 PM

Is there any software that will back up everything on the system drive so that I could restore and get quickly back up and running if something goes wrong?

To be more precise, something that will back up EVERYTHING. For instance, will it restore an activated version of Photoshop and Office to its working state?
Posted By: Jim Poor

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/24/11 05:09 PM

Carbon Copy Cloner will do this, but it may be Mac only.
I believe Norton Ghost will make an exact dupe of the drive so you could just swap it in.
Posted By: glamson

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/28/11 05:47 AM

Originally Posted By: psmith
Is there any software that will back up everything on the system drive so that I could restore and get quickly back up and running if something goes wrong?

To be more precise, something that will back up EVERYTHING. For instance, will it restore an activated version of Photoshop and Office to its working state?


Preston,

You can make an image of the partition using the Easus Easy Backup software at the same site you get the partition master at. I routinely make an image of my boot drive. On the one occasion when I lost the hard drive, I was back up in a half an hour after installing a new hard drive. I think everyone should keep an image of their boot drive with a known good configuration. It beats the hell out of a OEM recovery disk.

Geo
Posted By: RomanJohnston

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/28/11 06:00 PM

Again, Geo beat me to the punch. Good job!!! I like creating images of my OS when I am done too. Makes for a VERY quick recovery. If you plan ahead and create a balance. Small enough to operate easily and large enough to accept updates in the future without having to go though the resizing issue.

I would also STRONGLY recommend an external drive. You can unplug it and insure you will not overwrite sensitive data. 1 TB are often under $100.00 these days at places like Costco or similar membership club stores.

It makes image work a worry free breeze.

Roman
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 02/28/11 11:09 PM

I am deep in the middle of this. My cat chewed thru 3x2Tb external drive power adapters , 4 USB cables, my home phone line, and my speaker cables over the weekend. Once I started taking things apart I decided to just spend the next days getting it all right. First I have downloaded and bought the partition software. Then I cloned the dual boot system drive to a 1tb MyBook. WhiLe that was going on (7 hours), I drove over to MicroCenter and got a 2TB extreme barracuda internal, and a USB 3.0 drive enclosure. I'm in the middle of cloning the system drive again to the new 2tb drive. Then I plan to try to just swap it for the system drive and see what happens. Meanwhile, the cat is in timeout.
Posted By: RomanJohnston

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/01/11 03:08 PM

Ok, so just responded to your note and noticed you had the exact same response here.

I am going to propose you do something very different than you have laid out.

I need an inventory of all available hardware.

How many usable hard drives. Internal vs. external. Sizes, and what is new and what is used. Used ones I need to know what is on them.

Roman
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/01/11 05:31 PM

Roman, what is your recommendation?

I've pulled everything off the system except for my original system drive (500gb, dual boot), my working drive (images and data), and the new 2TB drive attached US3.0 (currently with an image of the system drive with the W7 partition extended to 1.5TB).
Posted By: RomanJohnston

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/01/11 06:57 PM

Do you care to go to phone mode this evening? This is pretty involved and have lots of questions. Would like to strategize with you. This notes back and fourth is kinda tough on such a technical job.

If so let me know your phone number and when (and what time zone) to contact you.

Roman
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/01/11 09:46 PM

Yes, thank you...pm sent.
Posted By: StarrLight

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/02/11 05:18 AM

I would really like to hear about the final setup, how each element is set up and why. Pretty please. smile

Diana
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/02/11 08:18 PM

OK, here is the saga up until now.

I have tried and failed four times to clone the system drive and boot a new bigger drive using the Easeus software. Each cloning took about 8 hours for a 500GB drive <sigh>. I then purchased the Easeus Backup Workstation software and tried another cloning with it, another 8 hours and another failure to boot. Then I used same software to do a Backup rather than a Clone. At that point I felt comfortable using the nuclear option that Roman recommended which was to use the Partition software to resize the system drive in place on the original drive. First I shrunk the Vista drive (D) of most of its free space, a 4 hour operation, then I allocated the 100gb to the Windows 7 drive (C), a 6 hour operation. That just finished...AND IT WORKED!!!

Now I have removed the somewhat healthy resized system drive and I am using the Easeus Recovery program to attempt to build a new system drive on a 2TB platform. It says it will take 7 hours for that. If it works I will have a new system drive with plenty of space, and I'll set the 500gb drive in the safe for any future potential recovery.
Posted By: glamson

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/02/11 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: psmith
OK, here is the saga up until now.

I have tried and failed four times to clone the system drive and boot a new bigger drive using the Easeus software. Each cloning took about 8 hours for a 500GB drive <sigh>. I then purchased the Easeus Backup Workstation software and tried another cloning with it, another 8 hours and another failure to boot. Then I used same software to do a Backup rather than a Clone. At that point I felt comfortable using the nuclear option that Roman recommended which was to use the Partition software to resize the system drive in place on the original drive. First I shrunk the Vista drive (D) of most of its free space, a 4 hour operation, then I allocated the 100gb to the Windows 7 drive (C), a 6 hour operation. That just finished...AND IT WORKED!!!

Now I have removed the somewhat healthy resized system drive and I am using the Easeus Recovery program to attempt to build a new system drive on a 2TB platform. It says it will take 7 hours for that. If it works I will have a new system drive with plenty of space, and I'll set the 500gb drive in the safe for any future potential recovery.


Preston,

I admire your tenacity. I have been using the Easus software for about a year with both XP and Win7 and it has always worked without a hitch. I always use the backup (not the clone) to make an image of my boot drive of 150 gb. It takes about 20 min. I actually made a backup last night that took 19 min. The one time I had to restore the partition to a new drive also took about 30 min. The other nice thing about the backup is it only makes an image of the used space. I think it may even do some compression because my 150 Gb partition of which 95 is supposedly used, gives me a backup file of 87 Gb. I have never tried the "clone" option. I can see where that might take longer if it is doing a sector by sector dupe.

My primary hard drive is a 1Tb drive with a 150Gb C: partition for the operating system (OS) and programs and a second D: partition for data. I've always believed it is a good idea to keep the operating system and data separate so that if the OS goes south it is easy to restore the C: partition without bothering the data partition. I would think with a duel boot config you could make a C: and D: partition for the 2 OSs and an E: partition for data. I can't believe it would take more that 150-200 Gb for OS and programs.

My systems are all Windows and use NTSF formatted drives. I'm wondering if your duel boot configuration uses a different disk format which may be the reason things are not going so smoothly?

Hope this helps and good luck getting your system back up.

Geo
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/02/11 10:37 PM

Thanks Geo. Yes, I think the dual boot has added a ton of complexity and I suspect that is what has caused the problems. If it weren't for Vista being stuck on that physical drive I would have had 500gb and plenty of room.

The cloning takes FOREVER, and two of the times I was doing it on a USB 2.0 external...very slow.

I keep my working data on a separate physical drive (L:), and I keep that backed up religiously.

Hopefully though when this is over I'll have 2x2TB internal drives and now I have a USB 3.0 enclosure for copying / examining other internal drives. And one of my 2TB externals was a 3.0 drive that I had hooked up to 2.0, so it should be 10 times faster.

Meanwhile, I have found a batch of 10 power adapters on eBay for $40 (vs $31 each at Amazon). So I may get through all of this yet. I am thinking that I will switch to the Easeus software as my system backup software from now on.

PS...I think the lengthy cloning time was also caused by the lack of free space on the c: drive.
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/02/11 10:41 PM

Oh, and my system drive was all NTSF. Again, i think the slowness was due to lack of any space on the system drive.

Thanks for the recommendation on the software, it did the resizing that Windows would not do. What killed me was all the Cloning vs doing a Backup/Recovery.
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/03/11 12:38 AM

SUCCESS! Backup and recovery was the way to go. The EASEUS software even asked me if I wanted to expand the C drive when it saw the new disk drive.

Thanks Roman and Geo.
Posted By: RomanJohnston

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/03/11 04:21 AM

I am just glad it all got taken care of. I am sure it was scary for you. Glad I could help what little I did.

Roman
Posted By: psmith

Re: Is there an easy way to free up space on my Cdrive - 03/03/11 05:21 AM

Thank you again Roman. Your suggestion absolutely worked, I Just had to ensure myself that I had something to work with in case it didn't. Historically, I am the 1% on any 99% success stories.
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