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Re: Need suggestions on candid dog photography [Re: Moshe] #4217
07/11/06 07:57 AM
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I have a question . . . after you take photos of these dogs in dog parks, do you try to sell them to their owners?


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Re: Need suggestions on candid dog photography [Re: Karen] #4218
07/11/06 10:52 AM
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I don't. Those are more for my pleasure of shooting. I think if you did such a thing, you might creep people out. I could be wrong though

To me, people buy if they are expecting that someone will be there as a photographer. If someone walked up and said "I took photos of your dog, here's my card" I might only be annoyed.

Re: Need suggestions on candid dog photography [Re: Julie] #4219
07/11/06 11:33 AM
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Yeah, that is kind of what I thought too. So, it is more for your enjoyment than for money.


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Re: Need suggestions on candid dog photography [Re: Karen] #4220
07/11/06 12:05 PM
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Shooting different subjects in varying lights gets you accustomed to your gear, and how things will turn out in different lights

If someone calls for an outdoor portrait session, I know where, and when the light will make good photos. I am still on the steep side of the learning curve, so I take every chance I can get to shoot things

Horses and dogs are my favorite, and what I intend to specialize in. The old adage of shoot what you know is what I am going for.

Re: Need suggestions on candid dog photography [Re: Karen] #4221
07/11/06 08:35 PM
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I have a question . . . after you take photos of these dogs in dog parks, do you try to sell them to their owners?




Hi Karen,

This is an area I have been hesitant to get into. I always prefer it when people approach me for business - having seen my work somewhere else.

NYC is Dogland. There are billions and biiiillllions of them here. I imagine that it would not be difficult to start a business hanging around the various dog runs. It is just something, however, I am not comfortable with. I know I would not like it if some guy started photographing my pooch without my consent.

James

Re: Need suggestions on candid dog photography [Re: James Morrissey] #4222
07/11/06 09:42 PM
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... I know I would not like it if some guy started photographing my pooch without my consent.




Exactly James, which is why that approach would be all the wrong way around. Sure it is a kind of "street photography" but it is not sneaky journalism. The opposite approach works fine, talk to the owner, say you like the look of their dog, that you'd like a couple of shots of the dog, and look here's my card, I usually put them on this website for a week so owners can have a look at them, is-that-okay?? They say either yes or no, I think it is more polite to ask first, otherwise it is as bad as taking a shot of a child without permission, - just not acceptable. With dogs I do not offer a model release to sign, I believe permission by word is okay.

For the selling of images - either tell them they are available and the basic price for a small print: or they can see that info on the website if and when they look at it. I think it is better to state price and availability.

James I know what you mean about stepping out of the comfort zone to "hang around" dog parks. But those of us at the starting end of a photography business can't get started unless we are proactive about it: if we don't work to create our business, there wil be no work to be seen and appreciated by someone else - whether we are starting by posting on dog-owner forums, or attending dogsports events, or pet photography as "street photography" or a combination of these, there has to be a starting point to progress from.

Re: Need suggestions on candid dog photography [Re: PossumCorner] #4223
07/12/06 01:07 AM
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In answer to the question, do I try to sell these pics to the owners?

I approach people, admire and ask about their dog, ask if it's okay to photograph the dog, give them my card, and offer to send them the (400 x 600 pixel) "snapshots" without any charge or obligation if they send me an email to let me know they're interested.

On the back of my card it says that I'll send them "snapshots" without any charge, but if they would like the original digital files to make enlargements, or if they would like those files post-processed, they're available for a very "modest" charge.

To date no one has taken offense, refused permission to take pictures, or otherwise reacted negatively to my approach. Several people have sent emails requesting the "snapshots," a couple have asked for the original digital files, and one person has asked that I come to take pictures of her and her dog (which I haven't been able to arrange to do yet).


Moshe
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