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Re: Tear track retouching? [Re: Jim Poor] #21178
03/12/09 06:13 PM
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I did a shoot last night for Andrew from Greatest American Dog along with two other of his doggy siblings.

This is Geoffrey who has a bit of trouble with tear tracks.

So far, the best way I've come up with to deal with something this extensive is to do a B&W conversion and mess with the red sliders for saturation and luminosity.

I could go hair by hair and retouch the whole thing, but I'm wondering if you all have any other ideas that are less labor intensive. I've got nearly 100 images and while I'm sure I won't need to retouch them all, any time-savers would be great.






Jim,

Yes tear staining is the bane of white dog owners, especially the little ones like the Maltese. This will happen to dogs of any color that tear or salivate alot which allows red yeast to grow and stain the coat. In a white dog like this maltese it can get pretty bad. I can't imagine the amount of time and money Maltese owners put into trying to get rid of this.

Anyway, it seemed like a good challenge. I can't say that my method was really a time saver, but I thought I'd take a shot with my favorite RAW converter Capture NX2, because it uses color control points that can selectively control colors. Actually I thought the conversion to BW was a good idea except that you lose all the color. For these I used several control points to desaturate specifically the red stain. I left just a little color in the face (otherwise it would just be the same as your BW version) for the first two. For the second one I went a little further and cloned out a couple of the distracting strands. For the third one I desaturated and lightened the red almost to complete BW. The beauty of the control points is it allowed for selective contol without having to mask.

This method works fine for several keepers but would still be cumbersome for doing hundreds.

Geo






Re: Tear track retouching? [Re: glamson] #21179
03/12/09 06:18 PM
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Very cool. I was thinking about trying Viveza with this for the control points. I may give it a shot in LR with the selective adjustment tool.
I think I like the 3rd one best.
Thanks for the tips.

Re: Tear track retouching? [Re: Jim Poor] #21180
03/12/09 06:32 PM
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Very cool. I was thinking about trying Viveza with this for the control points. I may give it a shot in LR with the selective adjustment tool.
I think I like the 3rd one best.
Thanks for the tips.




Jim,

Yes Viveza should do the same thing in LR (although I think Nik has it priced a little high). The nice thing about Viveza is it implements the changes as a smart filter that creates a layer so the editing is completely non-destructive. CaptureNX2 is non-destructive for NEF files, but not for jpegs.

Good luck with it.

Geo

Re: Tear track retouching? [Re: glamson] #21181
03/23/09 04:38 PM
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I found that a combination of using one of the Bleach Bypass filter in Nik Color FX, desaturation of the red & yellow in hue and saturation and increasing the luminosity of the same rendered the best results so far.

That said, I won't be processing the rest of these for color, we'll be doing a re-shoot with a cleaned up face.

Re: Tear track retouching? [Re: Jim Poor] #21182
03/23/09 08:46 PM
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Funny how people don't 'see' it every day. It's as though the camera gives them new eyes to see with. I guess it is like looking at yourself in the mirror versus seeing a photo of yourself. Glad they are going to clean that puppy up.

Re: Tear track retouching? [Re: psmith] #21183
03/24/09 09:51 AM
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When I shoot a dog with tear stains I use the powder sold in PETCO to hide it.

Have you tried color replace in Photoshop??

Re: Tear track retouching? [Re: FarleyDog] #21184
03/25/09 02:47 AM
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Yeah, I tried color replace Didn't care for the results much, but then again, color replace is not something I use very often, so it could just be me.

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