thanks new2, most of the goat shots do come from steep, difficult terrain. If ever youre in Glacier park, in the summer months, you can see them up close on logan pass. The only drawback is that their coats are in very poor shape until about the time they close the road in september when they have rid themselves of last years coat and are growing the new one for this winter. Right now you can see them in all their glory with short white fur. . . To get the long haired shots you must shoot them in March. . .