There's also another smaller one further in that is easier to manage, it has a paved trail that leads to it from a visitor center. I'll have to find our map to see the name of it. Tucson Jim you are correct about the ladders, that was the reason my wife didn't go with me when we were there.
We're planning on going back as well, we only spent a day there.

Don


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