Yeah but I like the smooth backdrops more than I do wrinkles. For some reason I've just never understood the whole wrinkles thing for solid colored backdrops. If it's painted muslins its nice to have wrinkles because there's so much color in them, but to me wrinkles in solid colors just never looked right. That's why I was wondering about finding an alternative. Anything that can roll on a tube that doesn't tear would be good, but I just don't know enough about the different types just to take a chance to buy something.