Thanks guys. First, I dont know how to imbed the image. second, the elk shot and the fall aspens sourrounded by the firs were both shot durring completely overcast and light one at about 1pm the other at about 4:30. Who said you need the golden hour? LOL - just a jab. I got the point from the post, just trying to mix it up a bit. . .

Take care - ho, by the way, the shots of the japanese gardens are very spectacular - poster's for sure. . .

P.S. - fall is mostly done up here in glacier country. the sun road is closed all the shops are closed and the trees are mostly bare, at least in the mountain country. If youre out on the plains, there's still some opportunity. Now, bring on the blizzards!