Well we're doing this again on Monday LOL. They just couldn't decide on one shot so asked if we could do it again and I said SURE I'd love another chance to practice. I've learned a bit more with each one. We're going to another spot this time with more background options to choose from and it's supposed to be overcast which should help. Meanwhile I'm studying the article Tony directed me to on the flash unit, I'm starting to see where it might have gone wrong but need to try it out. Sounds like I should use P or M and not Av or Tv...I was wondering why my shutter speed was so slow even with the flash, the article explains it.