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Off Topic but VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read #1341
12/19/05 05:04 PM
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My 3 dogs were poisoned yesterday. With the neighbors miss use of Rat poison. The reason I am making this post is to alert everyone to the appearance of this new bait.
Here is a link to my pet forum I belong to and the whole story. I will also post the first part here incase not everyone wants to go through several posts.
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=95232

think it could never happen to your dogs ?, think again.....

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Two days ago Nina had a strange object, thingie, in her mouth. We took it away, saved it though. Didn't think much of it. In the woods, on her walks she finds little toys and stuff. Today Lucee brought one in the house. OH MY GOD, it dawned on me that the neighbor was putting out Rat poison. I ran over there and looked and they were, all over his carport.

We called the vet, she said bring them in, in a hurry.

We have never seen any rat poison like this in our life. The squirrels are carrying it all over the neighborhood. The squirrels will die from this too, as well as cats and birds.

They were all treated with charcoal and now are on vitamin K1 for 4 weeks. They did blood ACT clotting time on Lucee and Nina (they had the poison in their mouth) and have to get another kit to do Ashlee on Monday. They only had 2 kits. I don't know what Lucee's time was, but Nina's was 1 minute 30 sec. And it shouldn't really be over 60 sec. The longer the clotting time the more apt they are to be bleeding inside. Walks only on leash, no rough play. They can't get brusied. So we have to keep an eye on them very closely. They worry if it doesn't clot till 3 minutes, then your in big trouble in a hurry.

We 'may' have caught this early enough to treat. We can only hope.

But the reason I am making this post is for people to be aware of what your neighbors do. We have a fenced yard and never let our dogs out unattened. We even go out with them when the go potty. We feel we are VERY good dog parents, and then this happens to our babies. We are sick. I am so worried.

Here is a picture of the rat stuff. They are big, like 2 inches long and an inch wide, green. We had no idea what it was till the 2nd one was found by Lucee, and I went to the next door neighbors yard.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/tomandkatz/junk%20and%20stuff/conblx2RAT.jpg

Re: Off Topic but VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read [Re: tomkatzid] #1342
12/20/05 06:21 AM
12/20/05 06:21 AM
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Thanks Tomkatzid for the heads-up. I looked at your link again to see how they are doing: let us know here when you have time. It is a constant worry, can happen anywhere. Our biggest concern in my part of Australia is snail bait, some people leave it in their gardens unprotected and dogs as well as birds find it. I worked in Thailand years back a lovely Doberman I owned picked up a bait on a beach and died - the Govt had been intentionally poisoning stray dogs. Would rate as one of the worst experiences of my life. I do hope your guys will come through this okay.

Re: Off Topic but VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read [Re: PossumCorner] #1343
12/20/05 08:47 AM
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Good to know - but, how did the dogs get over to your neighbors car port? I have a fenced in dog run off the back of my house, and the dogs actually never do get out on their own.

You stated your dogs are never let out alone, but this seems to not actually be the case, since they got to your neighbors to get the poison in the first place. Please understand, I'm not pointing a finger at you here - just askign the question inhopes of maybe getting "tightened security" for your pups.

While my dogs don't get out alone - ever, I routinely take my springer out for a romp in the yard while I'm outside doing (fill in the blank) - I'd lose my $hit if this happened to him. Of course, I already had one dog killed by someone at my neighbors house, so I'm always on the look-out now for issues. To that end, my dog-run has two fences - one to keep people awayf rom the choin link fence, the buried chain link to keep the dogs from digging under the wooden fence...dogs - so freakin' smart they're scary.


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VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read UPDATE [Re: Duane] #1344
04/30/06 02:07 AM
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Oh, maybe YOU didn't read my whole post, we have a 6 ft fenced yard, and our dogs go out to go potty only, they are NEVER alone to play, allways we are with them, they went out to potty and brought the green blocks in with them. Also mentioned in my original post, the squirrels brought them to our yard and all over the neighborhood. There were many dead rodants, birds and squirrels in the alley behind our houses for weeks after.
April 28th. A BIG vet bill and our dogs our fine again. It was a very scary time. I hope no one has to go through what we did.

Here is my original post again, just so you know our dogs did NOT get to the neighbors carport, as the can't climb the fence, the rat p. was carried all over the neighborhood by the squirrls and or maybe birds, not sure.


My 3 dogs were poisoned yesterday. With the neighbors miss use of Rat poison. The reason I am making this post is to alert everyone to the appearance of this new bait.
Here is a link to my pet forum I belong to and the whole story. I will also post the first part here incase not everyone wants to go through several posts.
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=95232

think it could never happen to your dogs ?, think again.....

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Two days ago Nina had a strange object, thingie, in her mouth. We took it away, saved it though. Didn't think much of it. In the woods, on her walks she finds little toys and stuff. Today Lucee brought one in the house. OH MY GOD, it dawned on me that the neighbor was putting out Rat poison. I ran over there and looked and they were, all over his carport.

We called the vet, she said bring them in, in a hurry.

We have never seen any rat poison like this in our life. The squirrels are carrying it all over the neighborhood. The squirrels will die from this too, as well as cats and birds.

They were all treated with charcoal and now are on vitamin K1 for 4 weeks. They did blood ACT clotting time on Lucee and Nina (they had the poison in their mouth) and have to get another kit to do Ashlee on Monday. They only had 2 kits. I don't know what Lucee's time was, but Nina's was 1 minute 30 sec. And it shouldn't really be over 60 sec. The longer the clotting time the more apt they are to be bleeding inside. Walks only on leash, no rough play. They can't get brusied. So we have to keep an eye on them very closely. They worry if it doesn't clot till 3 minutes, then your in big trouble in a hurry.

We 'may' have caught this early enough to treat. We can only hope.

But the reason I am making this post is for people to be aware of what your neighbors do. We have a fenced yard and never let our dogs out unattened. We even go out with them when the go potty. We feel we are VERY good dog parents, and then this happens to our babies. We are sick. I am so worried.

Here is a picture of the rat stuff. They are big, like 2 inches long and an inch wide, green. We had no idea what it was till the 2nd one was found by Lucee, and I went to the next door neighbors yard.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/tomandkatz/junk%20and%20stuff/conblx2RAT.jpg


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Good to know - but, how did the dogs get over to your neighbors car port? I have a fenced in dog run off the back of my house, and the dogs actually never do get out on their own.

You stated your dogs are never let out alone, but this seems to not actually be the case, since they got to your neighbors to get the poison in the first place. Please understand, I'm not pointing a finger at you here - just askign the question inhopes of maybe getting "tightened security" for your pups.

While my dogs don't get out alone - ever, I routinely take my springer out for a romp in the yard while I'm outside doing (fill in the blank) - I'd lose my $hit if this happened to him. Of course, I already had one dog killed by someone at my neighbors house, so I'm always on the look-out now for issues. To that end, my dog-run has two fences - one to keep people awayf rom the choin link fence, the buried chain link to keep the dogs from digging under the wooden fence...dogs - so freakin' smart they're scary.



Last edited by tomkatzid; 04/30/06 02:12 AM.
Re: VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read UPDATE [Re: tomkatzid] #1345
04/30/06 01:13 PM
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Interesting, sorry to hear about your dogs. I will be more careful. I have used that exact material to kill mice and rats for a long time, it's been on the market for many years. However, where I use it, it can only be accessed by rats and mice and never is there a chance that other, non target species get near it.

I think the neighbor just needs to put that poisen in a place where only the intended targets can get to it. . .

Good luck,

Re: VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read UPDATE [Re: Tony Bynum] #1346
04/30/06 01:36 PM
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Pretty scary. I'm so glad your dogs are ok. I would be livid if a neighbor set out rat poison like that where anything could get into it. With a 6 foot fence, you would think you would be safe but then something like this you would never think of happening...scary stuff.


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Re: VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read UPDATE [Re: Dee Dee] #1347
05/01/06 11:23 AM
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Damn, Again! I am very sorry to hear this. Wish I had some ideas for you but thanks for the reminder.


Thanks, Jeff
Re: VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read UPDATE [Re: JeffDinPA] #1348
05/01/06 09:17 PM
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Actually, this type of rat/mouse poison is NOT new. It has been around for years and is specifically designed to be placed in a rat bait box so that pets and children are not able to get into. Your neighbor is not using it as it is intended (in bait boxes) as evidenced by the dead squirrels and your dogs.

Good Luck with your dogs!

Re: VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read UPDATE [Re: Blue Dog] #1349
05/05/06 05:57 PM
05/05/06 05:57 PM
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Thank you for sharing this information. Glad to hear you pups are okay.
In addition, cocoa mulch is being used by many gardeners and it just killed one pup that ate it in our area. (Chocolate can be deadly to dogs) So please do not use this form of mulch.


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Re: VERY IMPORTANT- PLEASE read UPDATE [Re: Peggy Sue] #1350
06/04/06 06:27 PM
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If you are in the city you might check about laws on killing squirrels and birds. Maybe they could do something about this misuse under that pretense. Even in the rural areas there are specific hunting seasons for squirrels and certainly illegal to kill songbirds.


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