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Formby Sands
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03/25/08 03:18 PM
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Simon
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After the helpful comments I received on my last posting, I would be interested to hear your views on this image. It was a wonderful day and I have captured some of what I hoped, but I would welcome any advice on how I might increase the dramatic impact of the scene. http://www.quietsilence.org/Web%20Test/large-1.htmlThanks. Simon
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Re: Formby Sands
[Re: Simon]
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03/31/08 09:41 AM
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OlympusGuy
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After the helpful comments I received on my last posting, I would be interested to hear your views on this image. It was a wonderful day and I have captured some of what I hoped, but I would welcome any advice on how I might increase the dramatic impact of the scene.
http://www.quietsilence.org/Web%20Test/large-1.html
Thanks.
Simon
Hi Simon,
First: beautiful image!
If you will consider the suggestions of a comparative newcomer with limited Photoshop prowess: I would go to the Levels section of PS and dial the left slider to the right, and add a bit more saturation (I hope you'll forgive me for proceeding without your consent):
Cheers,
Leonard
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Re: Formby Sands
[Re: Simon]
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03/31/08 10:49 AM
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glamson
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After the helpful comments I received on my last posting, I would be interested to hear your views on this image. It was a wonderful day and I have captured some of what I hoped, but I would welcome any advice on how I might increase the dramatic impact of the scene.
http://www.quietsilence.org/Web%20Test/large-1.html
Thanks.
Simon
Simon,
Since you asked about increasing the "drama", this is what I would do if it were mine. A little tricky working with the low res web image but I think you get the idea.
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Re: Formby Sands
[Re: glamson]
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03/31/08 02:16 PM
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Gotta agree entirely with George's edit to reduce the human figures and bring more attention to the dune in the background.
This (George's effort) is how I saw it after viewing the original.
Durwood Edwards www.joelton.org"Never miss a good chance to shut-up!" - Will Rogers
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Re: Formby Sands
[Re: OlympusGuy]
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03/31/08 02:46 PM
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Glamson: I see you added some more sharpness (which I neglected to do **chagrin**); what else did you do? How did you manage to keep that hill from going dark?
Leonard
Leonard,
Since you asked...
First I took the image into Capture NX and did the global lighting adjustments with levels followed by local adjustments with control points (that's how I lit the bluff). I think I used 5 or 6 control points to adjust the local lighting, saturation and contrast.
Then I took it into Paintshop Pro (I use this and CS2 sort of interchangeably with PSP being the quicker of the two) to clone out the riffraff and to apply selective sharpening to areas that I thought needed them. The selective sharpening could have been done in NX too but unfortunately NX doesn't have a clone tool or I could have done it all there.
Hope this is informative.
Geo
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Re: Formby Sands
[Re: OlympusGuy]
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03/31/08 11:39 PM
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Wow! Getting rid of the rifraff -- all I was thinking about was the exposure. Now I know better: include optimum sharpening and delete distracting elements **slaps head**. Thanks, I learned something about how to approach enhancing an image that I myself didn't take.
I'm still not used to thinking about selective (versus global) sharpening, but now that I'm using niksharpen, I will.
Technical Q: What are control points? Is that part of PaintShop or also part of Photoshop?
Leonard
Control points are unique to Nik software, the makers of Capture NX. They are a really nice way to make local adjustments to light, saturation, color and contrast. You can read about them here
http://www.upoint.com/site/
Geo
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Re: Formby Sands
[Re: glamson]
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04/01/08 09:58 AM
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Control points are unique to Nik software, the makers of Capture NX. They are a really nice way to make local adjustments to light, saturation, color and contrast. You can read about them here
http://www.upoint.com/site/
Geo
Oh boy... just when I think I don't need to spend any more on image enhancement software... Am I right in thinking that this is a replacement for Photoshop? Is it a standalone app or a PS plug-in? (And of course it'll be at least a couple hundred bucks...  ) But it looks super, judging by how you handled that dune...
Leonard
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Re: Formby Sands
[Re: OlympusGuy]
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04/01/08 01:40 PM
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Oh boy... just when I think I don't need to spend any more on image enhancement software... Am I right in thinking that this is a replacement for Photoshop? Is it a standalone app or a PS plug-in? (And of course it'll be at least a couple hundred bucks... ) But it looks super, judging by how you handled that dune...
Leonard
Leonard,
CaptureNX is not really a CS replacement. It is the RAW converter that Nikon distributes for it's DSLRs. While in many ways it has some advanced features (like the control points), it lacks a large majority of the tools that CS has (the clone brush is a good example). As a Nikon RAW converter, I think it is outstanding and many people think it is the best converter for Nikon files (this is somewhat controversial and you can read endless threads on this in the Nikon forums on DPReview). My feeling is that NX is best for handling RAW files, but once they're converted to bitmaps (tif, jpeg) then CS and/or PSP are the better bet for editing (although NX is a respectable bitmap editor as demonstrated by the work done on the image in this thread).
I really think CaptureNX is used mostly by Nikon users for conversion and I doubt there are many who use it with other cameras, such as an Olympus. Nik software does sell a package that incudes control points and I think does have a CS plugin. The only caveat there is that I believe the real power of the control points is maximized when they are used on a RAW image which is at 12bit depth. I think they are less effective when used on an 8bit jpeg file. I suppose if a non-nikon RAW file was converted to a 16bit tif file and then manipulted with the control points, that would be closer to working with a native Nikon raw file. You might want to search around on the web to see what people think about Nik's software used with CS. You're already using their sharpening software, so you should have some feel for their software. I'd be interested in hearing what you think if you give it a try.
Geo
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