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Female Cardinal #19205
12/16/08 03:11 PM
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I just received a new 70-300mm Zuiko lens for my Olympus E510 and took some bird pictures out my window yesterday. Please let me know how I can improve the picture. Should I crop a little bit more off of the right side? How is the lighting, ect.?

Re: Female Cardinal [Re: Di58] #19206
12/16/08 03:59 PM
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I think cropping off the right side would make the bird too crowded. In fact, if you have already cropped from the right, I would put some back. A little off the left wouldn't hurt though.

A boost in saturation and adding a little black to the blacks and neutrals would help with the slightly foggy look that comes from shooting out the window.

A touch more sharpening would top it off just right.

Re: Female Cardinal [Re: Jim Poor] #19207
12/17/08 12:25 AM
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In addition to Jim's comments I would touch up the overall brightness of the cardinal. IMO it currently doesn't 'separate' enough from the background. As to the cropping, the picture is somewhat of a "tweener" - not cropped enough to frame the head to form a portrait, but cropped too much to provide for natural framing of the bird as a whole. I guess that's the one thing that really doesn't work for me with this image - I keep looking for a nice tail.

Aside from this, would you mind sharing how far away you were from the subject? Is this a full-frame image? I am just wondering about this in regards to the quality of the Zuiko lens.

Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Female Cardinal [Re: Di58] #19208
12/18/08 02:53 PM
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Quote:

I just received a new 70-300mm Zuiko lens for my Olympus E510 and took some bird pictures out my window yesterday. Please let me know how I can improve the picture. Should I crop a little bit more off of the right side? How is the lighting, ect.?




Diane,

Nice capture, especially through a window. I agree pretty much with what's already been said here. I find the image to be a little flat. I usually find that rather than describing my suggestions for improvement, it works better to show them so here is a version of your image the way I would have processed it.

What I did,

Increased saturation and contrast
Selectively sharpened
Selectively blurred background for better separation of bird from background
Selectively lightened the wing to bring out red coloring

These changes would probably look better if done on the original file instead of the small web image. Hope this helps.

Geo


Re: Female Cardinal [Re: gengiant] #19209
12/18/08 06:47 PM
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Hi and thanks for your suggestions. I would say I was about 8 feet from the cardinal at 300mm. I am going to attach two other pictures to show you distance. I have done nothing to the pictures, except downsizing for the web. The female cardinal in the tree is about 13 feet away and the downy woodpecker is about 15 feet away.

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12/18/08 06:48 PM
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Here is the downy woodpecker.

19417-Downy-on-Tree.jpg (57 downloads)
Re: Female Cardinal [Re: glamson] #19211
12/18/08 06:56 PM
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George,
Thanks so much for showing me the results of your suggestions. It really helps me to know what to do. I always worry a little bit about over sharpening. It sometimes has a harsh look that takes away from the bird's beauty. I may post some more pictures later. Happy Holidays!

Diane

Re: Female Cardinal [Re: Di58] #19212
12/25/08 10:50 PM
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I think this is a really nice shot. There is excelent detail in the feathers which I really like to see. I personally would crop off a little more on the right side. For me though while I like the photo and I think it is technically sound I prefer photos that show the whole bird when photographing small song birds. I am impressed though that you were able to get that close. I have many shots of cardinals and I have never ben able to get that close to one.


Kyle Reynolds

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