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Canyon reflections #9573
07/21/07 11:31 PM
07/21/07 11:31 PM
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Arizona
daveman Offline OP
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I would appreciate comments and critique. This was taken in Oak Creek Canyon, just outside Sedona Arizona.

Thanks,

Dave

Last edited by daveman; 07/21/07 11:37 PM.

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Re: Canyon reflections [Re: daveman] #9574
07/22/07 10:25 AM
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Beautiful colors and composition, Dave. The row of rocks on the left nicely brings the viewers into the frame. I bit this would look great mounted on the wall.

Re: Canyon reflections [Re: daveman] #9575
07/22/07 11:23 AM
07/22/07 11:23 AM
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Composition/use of frame space: Very cood use of frame space. Stream leads the eye effectivly through the frame, and leads you to the wall looking at the outcropping.

Colors/White Balance:
Colors are ok but slightly unnatural (I have walked this section of Oak Creek many of times)

Exposure : This is an area that hurts the most on this shot. Hopefully you shot in RAW and can reclaim part of the blown red channel on the upper rock outcropping. I personally would have bracketed 2 shots of this for any blending needed from such a thing...if you have RGB histogram on your camera...make sure you activate it to avoid this.

Creative use of Aperture/Shutter : Not really applicable here....basicly maintained good DOF.

Perspective: Good perspective...your eye naturally follows the canyon well.

Creativity : Nice representation of a very rugged area....might have played with a few foreground objects to anchor the frame.

Emotion :...well..for me a lot as I have a soft spot for Oak Creek...one of my absolute favorite places in the world.

Forethought/Visualization: Pretty good. As stated though...finding a good anchor would have only helped.

Post processing: Here is another area of gremlins for you....the reds just dont cut it for me...under the outcropping is a bit more natural...bu all the brighter areas have a yellow/red overcast that is a sore point in an otherwise VERY well done shot. I would love to play with the RAW shot to see what I could extract from this....worth the extra effort.

Roman

Re: Canyon reflections [Re: RomanJohnston] #9576
07/22/07 02:56 PM
07/22/07 02:56 PM
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Arizona
daveman Offline OP
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Roman,

Thanks for the comments. I always appreciate when you take the time to critique; I have learned a lot from you.

I did bracket the exposures, but in this case the red channel in the RAW file was not blown out at all. I managed to do that all by myself in PS!! I need to remember to watch the histograms as I work.

As far as the color I am not sure what to do. The RAW file has more of an orange tint, but I thought it needed to be more red. I know the Margulis book says to look for something neutral to set colors, but I did not know how to do that in this shot. I will re-do the PP watching the histogram this time.

I would love to somehow send you the RAW file - I learn a lot when you retouch my shots. I expect it's 10MB size would make it prohibitive to email, but let me know if you have any ideas.

Daniel,

Thanks for the comments. I enjoy your article on this site, and the shots at your smugmug site are fantastic.

Dave


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Re: Canyon reflections [Re: daveman] #9577
07/22/07 05:02 PM
07/22/07 05:02 PM
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Dave...just go here:
http://www.sendthisfile.com/

And sign up.

Send me the file and I will post the results full sized on my web site.

Roman

Re: Canyon reflections [Re: RomanJohnston] #9578
07/22/07 09:28 PM
07/22/07 09:28 PM
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I have been playing with this all afternoon - I would appreciate hearing if people think this is better. I set a neutral point on the lighter portions of the rocks on the top left.

Roman - I see now that you gave me a place to send the file; that is great and much appreciated. Please let me know your thoughts after reviewing the attached. I will send the RAW file to you if you still see things that could be done to make it better.

Thanks everyone.
Dave

Last edited by daveman; 07/22/07 09:43 PM.

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Re: Canyon reflections [Re: daveman] #9579
07/22/07 10:12 PM
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Send me the file if that is still ok.....romans.photos @ comcast.net (broken apart to protect against auto email scrapers....)

Re: Canyon reflections [Re: RomanJohnston] #9580
07/22/07 10:50 PM
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Hey Daveman,

Please send it to me as well. This could be fun.

James

Re: Canyon reflections [Re: James Morrissey] #9581
07/22/07 11:05 PM
07/22/07 11:05 PM
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daveman Offline OP
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Roman and James,

I just sent the file to both of you.

Roman - the "send-a-file" site would not accept your email address because of the spaces. I tried the address listed on your pbase site - [Email]romanjohnston@comcast.net.[/Email] Let me know if that is not valid.

James - I used the email address on your Wedding website.

I am excited to see what you two can do with it.

Thanks for your help.

Dave

Last edited by daveman; 07/22/07 11:07 PM.

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Re: Canyon reflections [Re: daveman] #9582
07/23/07 07:00 AM
07/23/07 07:00 AM
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Is this kinda what you were going for?



I PP'ed it at 25MP raw...so should print pretty darned large...up to 30"x45" on a LightJet. (which does the uprez for you mechanically)

I will send you the link to the full sized file tonight if you want it.

Roman

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